Five people (Aaron, Bill, Carina, David, and Esther) form a club, N = A, B, C, D, E. Carina and Esther are women, and the others are men. If they choose a secretary randomly, find the odds in favor of a person whose name begins with a consonant becoming secretary. The odds in favor of a person whose name begins with a consonant becoming secretary are ___ to ___. (Type whole numbers).